One topic I’ve been meaning to write about on this blog is on the relationship between New Zealand and Australia, and how Aus is viewed by your typical Kiwi. And I will get around to doing that in more depth later on, as there is heaps to write about. There’s actually probably a PhD in it, but I can’t be bothered doing another one.
However, an article showed up online today that I couldn’t help but post about. Apparently a Christchurch historian thinks that Australia should take New Zealand more seriously. Seriously.
Professor Philippa Mein Smith says that:
“It’s time to stop trotting out the sheep jokes and the endless ribbing on the sports field and make our relationship more sophisticated”
And then she goes on to try to prove her point by (slightly hypocritically) invoking the old chestnut, Phar Lap:
“He’s a hero horse for all of us so I think it’s about time we got over who owns him and just accept we all do, but still the fight goes on.”
Diddums.
FYI, we invented Pavlova too.
But you can have Russell Crowe.
Apparently we can thank Rove, who suggested that Australians viewed Kiwis as “the cousin at the party in the short trousers”. I’d never actually heard this one before, but let me tell you, it’s absolutely spot on.
Mainly because the truth is Australians are pretty ignorant towards NZ. Heck, I just assumed I’d be able to buy the SMH or The Age over here, and get the ABC on TV. Wasn’t even sure if Auckland or Wellington was the capital (it’s Wellington by the way).
On the other hand, Kiwis know all about Australia, and are moving there in record numbers. It’s pretty much a rite of passage for most New Zealanders in their twenties to go and work there for a year or two. It’s almost an obsession. In fact the the Kiwi “OE” (Overseas Experience) is pretty much institutionalised, whereby most young people nick off to either Australia of the UK to work for a few years, before (mostly) returning to NZ.
Seriously, they simultaneously love us and loathe us.
And it’s great, in my opinion. Imagine if we all got along, it’d be boring as batshit. The more trans-Tasman rivalry the better I say.
Now get your friggin’ trousers lengthened you dorks!
Khadeland said
If we Kiwis are “the cousin at the party in the short trousers” then Aussies must be the drunk slobs in mini-shorts.
Chris said
Pavlova is Greek, you morons! You did not invent it. Seriously, you idiots need to get a grip.
Matt said
It’s called tongue in cheek you fools amd yet you call these folks wankers?! Take a look at yourselves and wake up.
Talk about little man(country) syndrome….
Adam said
Just a wee note to you both to say I think this site is funny as hell. I am a kiwi who lives abroad and think alot of what you write about is true. Its funny how people have reacted so aggressively to a few of your comments. Maybe they were wearing their short trousers while reading your blog. Anyhows keep up the good work and I do know deep down you are starting to love N.Z :)
Robo said
Just for general info – Tsssie is a great place and is growing in popularity great guns…
Rosco said
Do you guys sell banner adverts?
Keep it up – like pissed talk in a public bar – just mind numbingly futile but fun.
Rob Gillard said
Short trousers for keeping th’anatomicals cool – v. important. You could always try pouring Fosters down ya strides – might work if they haven’t been in the eski overnight. Funniest thing this Kiwi has ever heard. I’d been in the land of the poms for a fair stretch and I met a kiwi sheila – the accent is hilarious – talk about fushnchups mate – y’ just don’t know how bad it can get.
Hamish said
Australian is a country that is essentially a desert with the majority of the population clinging to the coast. When your water dries up don’t come crying to NZ…last I heard you couldn’t drink minerals.
Scott said
um … the shorts were called “stubbies” and went out in the ’80s …. and at least our hats don’t advertise how much wine we have consumed …
Dane said
“Kiwis know all about Australia” obviously we’re more intelligent and have the mental capacity to learn about other countries. But thats not hard considering you’re a bunch of convicts who legally classified Aboriginals as part of the flora and fauna until 1967.
Every time a Kiwi crosses “the ditch” to live, it increases the IQ of both countries.
LayD said
“You have yourself a funny little blog going, I’ll add you to my blog tab,” says a typical kiwi girl in appropriately lengthened pants.
Rick said
ROVE=SUCKS. Best you got? Aussie ‘humour’ better exemplified by Chaser.
Possum said
Come and visit the equivalent website on the other side of the Tasman:
http://www.underarmbowling.com
Chloe said
Scott, Aussies drink wine, not beer. And our hats are mainly the akubra, or bush hat, and have nothing to do with beer or wine. If you are going to throw a tantrum over a good-natured site, then at least know what you are talking about when you attempt a lame-arse retort that doesn’t even relate to the topic.
Paul said
I’m an Aussie living in NZ. All you kiwi’s do is tell us Aussies that the land of OZ is crap and you guys are always the No.1 in the world for something something “per capita”. Well if you hate Aussie so much, stop moving to the bloody Gold Coast and western Sydney. You’re your own worst enemy people. NZ is a beautiful country with many opportunities, stop getting caught up in comparing yourselves to us.
Karl said
The Kiwi “OE” is a wonderful chance to see the world without the responsibility of work or university. Without a little travel you’d likely expect the find ….. “the SMH or The [Melbourne] Age” on sale in every city in the world or expect the Australian “ABC on TV” where ever you venture.
Venture is a bit excessive to describe the difference between Australia and NZ, same Queen, same language (mostly), certainly different grammar and attitude to race relations but all-in-all similar.
NZ is certainly wet and boring compared to OZ however if wet means farmers don’t own a dust bowl and boring is a lack of drive-by shootings or brawls at the airport then I can live with wet and boring.
Cheers bro!
Randy said
This blog is great… Ive read every section and every comment and had a great larf….
Its informative and funny, well done…
I think youve done a great job for New Zealand tourism, its got NZ back on our minds as a place to go or maybe even stay for a while…
One Question. Do you know if NZ has a reciprical tourist welfare system as Australia does for the Kiwis? Can we come over and go on welfare while we enjoy a year or two of holidaying and sightseeing or is that just an Australian Government innitiative to help fill our rugby teams?
If we can go on welfare pretty easily over there I think Id be more than happy to go over for a year or two as its a beautiful country worth vusiting…. :)
Paul said
Bloody Funny site guys very well done!,Im a kiwi living in Brisbane and I dont know why people are getting pissed off with this site?! havent kiwis and aussies always taken the piss out of each other for a laugh? Lighten up people!! maybe someone should start a website up called http://www.a dingo ate my baby.com.au?
Sarah said
Hi Aussies,
First I thought this website was bit of a carpy idea, but now I think it is great. If we cant laugh at ourselves then we might as well be “6 feet under”. Afterall this rivalry has been going on for years. But get both our ex-pats together away on holiday and we are long lst couzzies!! Long live the rivalry. Go Aussie Aussie ho ho! Might start a Kiwi webiste about u guys, sorry sheilas!
Dizzymum said
As another Aussie living in Auckland, I was also really ignorant about NZ. I assumed it would be a lot like Oz, but I’m constantly amazed at the differences. Different foods, attitudes, customs, weather – but we’re loving it too. Apart from the crazy Auckland drivers, we find people amazingly open, friendly, kind and genuine. I still love home, but living in NZ has enriched in our lives.
Marti said
Actually the French invented Pavalova so we can stop fighting about that one.
Dirk Longstaff said
Classic, love the blog!I’m half-kiwi/half-aussie and I couldn’t agree with you more. As NZers we need to seriously get over oursleves…oh and you aussie wankers need to stop whinging ;-)
Julie said
No, Aussie can keep Russell Crowe, really, we insist. LOL
a dork (apparently) said
Right….. we kiwis are dorks. Atleast we don’t eat our national icon, wear hats with wine corks and have our noses so far up the USA’s arse that we’re popping out the head! All hale the New America lol
tutts said
Man there really are some serious people around.Ive had a good laugh at your comments.Keep it up.I think we wouldnt be the country we are without having big brother next door.
Big Man said
This “fush n chups” thing really annoys me. It’s the one phrase in the Kiwi language that Aussies know how to imitate. You never hear them imitating any other colloquialisms of ours.
However, it is easy to imitate an Aussie – shove a cork up your nose and repeat the phrase, “How ya goin’ mate?”. If you use the word “mate” at the start of the phrase then make sure you prolong the “aayy” sound in it.
Cam said
Bit of an embarrassing reaction from us Kiwis really. I have cold ankles…
provocateur said
If ‘stubbies’ went out in the ’80′s someone should inform ‘southern man’ ‘cos they all mince about in them down here… Love the site, most excellent observations and killer wit.
Welly1 said
I’m a Kiwi living in Aussie.. i get so much sh1t (or shut) it’s not funny! espec cos i work in radio! the bloggers on this site obviously love NZ .. otherwise they wouldnt live there! and lets face it .. its better than Tassie! Anyhoo I don’t know why kiwis are getting upset about this.. its actually pretty funny (and mostly true) but the majority of comments about NZ from the bloggers are positive ones.
You can have pavlova .. but we get Jandals.. or pluggers/thongs to u. We invented them !!!
joe blogg said
what is the smallest organ in a sheeps body???
an aussie’s co*k
Melodie said
Funny!
Doug said
Hey Guys.
I once heard the expression: “Its un-Australian to not take the piss out of Kiwis”.
That is true for me, especially being a Kiwi myself. I’m 21, and yes, I have been coming back and forth between the two countries. I now fully reside with my whole family with the exception of one sister. I work here in the Mines in Western Australia (Tom Price). I’d like to dispence some good advice to you with regards to what is going on here on this website:
First of all, you must remember that what defines us as ‘Kiwi’ is our ability to truly connect with our culture(our love for being able travel a short distance to find the ocean, swiming hole, waterfall, river etc), our love for our country and the ideals we politically have made in history that make us appear to the world less than sheep, but pioneers of what we know is right…. for this reason, we pride ourselves for the simple notion of how such a small country can have a loud voice that is clearly the word of its people passing through its Government. If that isn’t true democracy then I don’t know what is.
Moreso, It has recently come to my attention at work that I must bite my need to slander off on the faults of Australia. I usually complain about these march flies, the heat, the dust, the climate, how we always seem to take a world power and defeat them at sports etc. All in all, my ‘Aussie’ mate pulled me aside and told me to bite my lip on these things… First of all, I am in their (your) country, I always have the choice to leave if I don’t like it as such. So, with all due respect, I not in fact do respect the Aussie culture and everything Australian. Just to note, I do at best emphasise my Kiwi Accent to show that I am proud of who I am, and where I come from.
I must do this as a visitor to this nation, earning quad-duple what I would normally get at my fulltime job in Auckland. I can get ahead living here in Australia, opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had living back home in New Zealand.
I find it humourous in most aspects when my fellow aussie colleagues joke around. I have a few jokes tucked up my sleeve, especially with the backing of the Tazmanians.
Finally a conclusion. Whilst this is all in good spirits, be witty on your tone as this innocent play-around does often pass the fine line of arrogance.
From a happy Kiwi residing in Western Australia permanently,
Doug J. Taua
jo said
Wow, lot of fuss over nothing really, I am a kiwi living in Australia. I moved here for the money and nothing else, cause apparently aussie’s are too lazy to work (and that has been said by there own media). But I still have a great bunch of ozzie mates and even family members.
There has always been rivalry between our two countries and I think it’s great – You know there is nothing we love better than competing against the aussies in sports.
I mean we are the World Champs at League
Holders of the Tri Nations & Bledisloe Cup
Oh and dont forget about the Netball
As for the “stubbies” well they are ugly but if you got the legs to carry them off then why the hell not.
Rae said
Aussie has many great points, just as New Zealand…simultaneously both have bad points, like any country.
But i know we don’t come from convicts??
Petra said
Great site, really enjoying it… and I’m a Kiwi too. There is a fair bit of truth in what you’re saying of course, but then there is always going to be differences moving to a new country and adapting to the local culture. Just one thing you will learn: The Big OE (overseas experience) is when you move to the other side of the world. It does not include moving to Australia. That is not an OE. Only losers who can’t scrounge up the airfare to London would call going to Aus their OE. Australia isn’t even really classed as “overseas” by Kiwis, despite a trip requiring a passport.
Gez said
How does that compare to the undersize speedoes paraded on Australian beaches?
Zach said
We do the same to the poms… and the South Africans…. oh and the Americans…
in fact we piss take any country there is. and its all in good fun.
New Zealand is like the little brother who always wants to be taken seriously.
Lexi said
I’ve heard that Austria (yes, Austria, NOT Australia)has a claim to the pav. Let them have it. I don’t want it. They can have Russell Crowe too, if they want.
Andy said
Can you still get Stubbies? They were the coolest. I want some again.
Mind you, this is a bit rich coming from an Aussie. Have you seen what passes for shorts in Queensland? Just as well they have such small peckers or it’d be waving at you.
I suspect these people (strange how we have to provide our details but they haven’t the ‘nads to say who they are) have come to NZ, seen a few things they don’t like (which is fair enough, it ain’t everyone’s cup of tea) and decided to slag the country off. However, they don’t seem to have travelled around their own country first.
Such a shame as there’s some nice spots in Aus, but geez there’s some a-hole people there too. They might realise NZ ain’t so bad after all.
Yes, we can be arrogant about our scenery and rugby team, but is that any different to Aussies being arrogant about their cricket and league teams? Oh yeah, maybe not league so much these days ;-)
We both know what we’ve got and what we’re good at so be proud of it and tell the world.
And we’re heading to becoming one country. These days there’s more inbreeding between kiwis and Aussies than in the whole of Tasmania!
Lestat said
Haha if we are the guys at the party in shorts, then you are guy wearing Roman Sandal with socks and a pink tee-shirt.
Beejay said
I think this is absolutely hilarious – some bits accurate, some bit way off the mark. BTW I’m a born and bred Kiwi living in NZ and if you can’t see the funny side of all this you’ve got some serious problems. Keep it up and keep making us laugh.
Terry said
I have just returned to Sydney from a few years in Auckland. I met lots of great Kiwis there, but found that many would make uncomplimentary comments about Austalians. But when I made observations about New Zealanders they would get very defensive. Talk about thin skinned!
As for Phar Lap. He was a horse that died in 1930. Get over it!
Pavlova, its a merangue! Who cares!
Russell Crowe. Ho hum.
As for Auckland, apart from the traffic, its okay. But I don’t believe for a minute, as one Aucklander told me, that it is more cosmopolitan than Sydney. That really had me laughing.
Adrian Firmin said
Funny, well done. Can se why you moved to NZ, you’re a smart Australian… stand out too much in Australia, crossed the ditch to blend in.
tom said
Hey thats original more kiwi bashing from aussies. I guess thats an easy target for you.
Hey you don’t mind if we sling a bit back to you, do you dude? Come on don’t be too thin skinned now.
One question what is the most ridiculous sport ever created aussies? Yes thats right its the good old AFL. YEEAHH!!!Now what the hell is that stupid game? Is it rugby, NO way!Is it basketball? WEll maybe? Or is it aerial ballet, yes thats it!
Make sure you watch some real sport while your in our bueautiful country!
Rion said
Extract from wiki.
Some sources say the recipe originated in New Zealand, while others claim it originated in Australia. However, like the Anzac biscuit[4], the earliest known books containing the recipe were published in New Zealand.
Professor Helen Leach, a culinary anthropologist at the University of Otago in New Zealand found a pavlova recipe in a 1933 Rangiora Mothers’ Union cookery book.[1], and an even earlier pavlova recipe from a 1929 rural New Zealand magazine[1], New Zealand Dairy Annual (1929)[3].
Keith Money, a biographer of Anna Pavlova, wrote that a New Zealand chef in a hotel in Wellington, New Zealand, created the dish when Pavlova visited there in 1926 on her world tour. [5]
The claim that it was an Australian invention states that the pavlova is based on a cake baked by Bert Sachse at the Esplanade Hotel in Perth on October 3, 1935, six years after the earliest New Zealand recipe[6].
while wikipeida is hardly the final answer. it dose put your link to shame in regards to facts.
cam said
Lame site…… by lame sad people. Im a kiwi living in Aus…. overall impression?? Aussies are great for a laugh and a bit of fun but damn you dont wanna rely on one for work, worldly views or fashion sense!
Im in construction, and the companys I work for dont employ Australians because theyre either lazy or stupid or both. Last job I was on, of the 5 men hired I was the only one to last more than 2 days….. the other 4 were aussies (some didn’t make 4 hours!!)
I’m yet to meet an aussie who can explain their own electoral system or one who can speak a single Aborignal word.
Skinny jeans? plunging v neck t shirts? Shirts unbuttoned to the waist? pastel polos??? I Know Sydneys the gay capital of the Sthrn hemisphere but do the straight men have to dress like that as well???? No wonder all your women are dating immigrants.
In short its a slightly larger pacific backwater but with out the self awareness to realise it.
To all you kiwis smile and take the jokes with a pinch of salt. Let them look down on us if they feel is gives them some sad pride of place! Deep down the aussies love and envy us….. I know… I’m shagging one!
TC said
Awesome blog..Mate if the Kiwi is “the cousin at the party in the short trousers” then the Aussie is the one stealing your beers and chatting up your mother…
Keith said
Well I’m from a mixed heritage here, my wife is a Kiwi, my son was born on the Gold Coast and my daughter was born in Wellington as we lived there for 3 years (we are now living in Townsville NQ). My poor children are going to be sooooo confused. At leat my wife & I both barrack for QLD in State Of Origin but come rugby time and we sledge each other as much as the players on the field!! Mostly in good fun I think LOL. I read about this website in the local paper of all places. My advice to Kiwis re all the ribbing from Australia is probably get a bit of a thicker skin as we don’t really dislike you, your sometimes thin skin I think makes you an irresistable target. To Aussies yes I think its time to move on from the sheep jokes as we actually have more sheep per capita than NZ but I have to say in Australia i’ve never seen a sheep grazing on the side of a mountain overlooking the beach as I did once in Tauranga!!
jimbo said
Interesting comments about the OE – the company I work for did research recently about global mobility of professional workers, one of the things that came out in the survey showed that Australians consider their overseas work experience as a rite of passage, but tend to head to places like the UK, America and Asia. ie, head to larger markets.
Given NZ is a small market and Australia is a larger market the OE in Sydney or Melbourne or the mines in WA fits this model.
I think the whole purpose of heading to a larger place is not only to seek your fortune but to gain an understanding of something outside of the environment that you’re used to.
Martin said
Aussie I have to say this blog is bloody great. I’m a pom by the way and must admit i enjoy a good bit of kiwi baiting at work, mainly to counter the pommy bashing but i have to say your observations are bang on even if they are tongue in cheek, so keep up the good work
Carrie said
HAHA this is funny as hell.
trouble said
this is great reading aye mayte! stubbies vs ozzie budgie smugglers ? ill take the stubbies thanks! chicks? ozzie chick are flipping hot! till they open there mouths! and what about that map of tassie!!
Gav B said
Had a quick read of the site and the comments.
Is pretty funny really and in no way offensive, so all those Baaaaaaa Humbuggers should get lives and learn to have a laugh.
Am just as happy to hear someone take the piss out of us Aussies, by the way.
Mark said
NZ is a great place to visit, been there four times and my brother went the other way and lived there fore more than 10 years – but it’s true that Kiwis seem to live on hanging it on Aussies – even at ‘official’ tourist spots – with the majority of tourists Aussies – there was always an anti-Australian joke.
Then there’s the underarm incident – which is getting close to 30 years old now – but is still trotted out regularly – despite the fact that the ONLY international team to run out a non striking batsman while they were just going to congratulate their partner for reaching 50 or 100 is NZ – the excuse, it was within the rules and I’ve not seen ANY NZ criticism of this action (whereas the majority of Aussies, including the then Australian team members) deplored the underarm incident. Regardless of any criticism, NZ then did it again. So if any Kiwi brings this up – just point out that they fall second on the unsporting scale behind England with Bodyline. We won’t go into NZ deliberately losing against Pakistan in the 1992 World Cup so they didn’t have to face Australia in Australia in the quarter finals (after playing all their matches in NZ) – the result put Pakistan into the quarter finals instead of Australia – but history shows NZ just lost the ‘real’ match later and Pakistan went on to win the World Cup :)
Australians have a bit of a chip on the shoulder for Americans – but Kiwis have chips on both shoulders.
NZ still has some fabulous places to visit, wines to drink and tales to tell. It nearly became a State of ‘Australia’ in 1901 (it’s still in our Constitution) instead of WA – and we have more in common than most other Countries – just don’t talk about the All Blacks and the Rugby World Cup!
Benny said
Lests face It, New Zealand and Australia dont’t a real defined culture……its European the values set today in both countries are of a European decent.
We must remember that our soo called “culture” is just a so called pavalova and a “Tiki”. Yet we ,New Zealanders and Australians delude our selves to thinking we have a rich a viberent culture full of worth.
Our two nations have been in exsistance for a mere 250 years, does this carry siginficance compared to the Great cultures of the Chinise the Romans or the babylons.
We must stop this petty bickering, we must remember that both our countrys are not even drop in the ocean compared to any other great civilization that has been in exsistance.
ausois said
Well, blow me down, SHORT STUBBIES .. along with Claytons and Skodas I’d nearly forgotten about them. Aren’t they like AFL players shorts? I’m an ex-Kiwi long out of NZ and in fact only in Oz for ten years, I love visiting NZ now for the “tourist help” comments I get from Motels .. apparently my accent has shifted. At the Kiwi thingie in Roto-Vegas (love that!), the girl doing tour had the full Kiwi vowel-shifted accent that I felt like translating for the mixed multi-national group on tour … and more to the point, with so many cashed up European tourists – how about German and French language skills (with a good accent!). Truly good advice … maybe?
Jordan said
The only reason why us young ppl move to aussie is for the money honey nothing else really!!!!
We dont love you’s at all!!
Get it right!
Ngaps said
I have some more colloquialisms that show off the Kiwi Language
Wup up a cake wuth my spetchula!
Go and git the munties out of the frudge.
Thet’s umprissive, Megic!
I’m Hippy about thet!
Note these all came from a Kiwi’s now living in Australia who (unlike many people commenting on this blog) could see the funny side of the differences between two wonderful countries!
I have lived in Auckland for three years (after relocating from Perth) and if I had a dollar for the amount of times people have said to me “look at moie look at Moie look at Moie”, “Struth”, “Stone the crows” and “a dingo ate my baby” I would be the richest woman in Auckland. Kiwi’s give as good as they get we should all just enjoy the differences and Blogs like this which poke a bit of fun!
WellyWood said
Saw Rove in Wellington a few years ago…classic that all the kiwis were laughing at his jokes and it was taking the piss at NZ the whole time…the land of flightless birds I believed he labelled NZ too…
Cookie said
One thing the Kiwi’s love pushing is the old ‘descended from convicts’ I don’t think that they have cottoned on that most Aussies, if truly descended from convicts, wear it as a badge of honour as I do. Oh and on the other side of my family – my great grandfather was born in NZ and emigrated to Australia when he was a boy and I can tell you that there were plenty of Aussies (probably the sons of former convicts) who went over to NZ to fight in the Maori Wars and who ended up taking their land grant and settling there. Scratch the surface and you will find the similarities more striking than the differences.
Jacey said
You can absolutely get The Age in Auckland. You just have to know where to look ;)
Iunita said
OMG lol this website made the melbourne AGE websit and our MX paper.lol gota love your attitude. admittedly as an aussie who lived in welly for the main part of my life i find some stuff offensive but hey everyone has their opinions…. but let me just say i could well agree to some stuff said about auckland….lol
Absolutely Positively Wellington people….
John Taylor said
Awesome site mate, farkin funny shit. As far as Trans-Tasman relations needing to be more sophisitcated I’d tell this Profusser to stuck ut up ya arse. Aussie’s and Kiwis have been in the trenches together more than a few times over the last 100 years. I’ve not been to NZ yet but got to know the Maori boyrs at the Morrabin Warriors Rugby League club, Melbourne about 10 years and a nice bunch of blokes they were too. Shit, when they found out my birthday was Feb 6th aka Waitangi Day, they fed me so much piss I could barely see straight.Fuckin legends. To me taking the piss, is taking the pus, it’s all good and if our Kiwi brothers and sisters want to set up a site called “Roo-Rooters” or something,bring it on.Keep it funny….Here’s one for ya’s What do you call a Jewish Maori?…Hey Bro (Hebrew)….shit joke I know…whatever…rock on!
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billy t james said
i left nz 10 years ago. the standard of living in oz is so much higher than in NZ. the wages, hospitals and police service is ten times better. us kiwis need to become more like the ozzies. nz is a hole! except for our outdoors!
Jill said
I’m a Kiwi living in Aussie at the moment and I heard about this blog from back home and how everyone was so upset about it. Well really, it isn’t any worse than anything Kiwis say about Aussies! We all love to make fun of each other and that’s not going to change so having a bit of fun with it isn’t going to hurt anyone. PS Pavlova is ours, Wikipedia wouldn’t lie. But seriously, Russell Crowe is an Aussie, he says so himself, you can have him, honestly, we don’t mind.
B said
I do dislike how it talks about everyone from New Zealand as a collective , I talk in proper english I do not talk to people like:
“Wup up a cake wuth my spetchula!
Go and git the munties out of the frudge.
Thet’s umprissive, Megic!
I’m Hippy about thet!”
it’s funny because New Zealanders don’t talk like that , and no matter how hard New Zealanders wish australians don’t either.
Australia “tried” to make pavalova and failed although they eventually got it , new zealand just got it first. ( plus it’s just a recipy )
If you really think New Zealanders talk like that come here , I’m sure you’ll meet alot of bogan teens (that comes with this whole “new age” teen generation that seems to be affecting the ignorance levels in the world) but there is more to New Zealand than just hilarious stereotypes (and they are pretty hilarious) I just hate that how australians think we’re all the same retarded “et’s et some fush n chups bro” people we’re not.
I have an issue with New Zealanders , they take to much pride in the little history they have.
Ben said
the pavlova is a fucking cake! who gives a fuck? is that how limited you’re culture is?
NZLND..ER said
What a HARDCASE site, so CHOICE……. hey fellow kiwis,don’t get so FREAKY about the site, your SHAMING the rest of us out here, what a SHRINK. Use it to get back at the aussies by saying something “funny haha” not “funny weird”. Just GIVE IT HEAPS and soon you’ll find it SWEATLESS to reply and be a CRACK-UP too.
maxine said
middle finger to the media (NZ Herald)for making this blog out like some kind of dramatic sshhh.. thanks to the clowns who wrote this blog lol.. for promoting nz & reminding me why im proud to be a kiwi (hard).. Oz is a place of bush fires, floods, shark attacks, gang wars etc whatever.. so why do aussies continue to compare themselves to kiwis? .. “It’s because they just can’t Measure Up Against other Countries their Size”.. lmao haha
Marita said
re the pavlova issue, this link gives a pretty full history: http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Cakes/Pavlova.htm
Basically one can draw different conclusions, a meringue-based dessert invented in NZ, but this dessert modified and named Pavlova in OZ a couple of years later. Maybe we can all consider this a truly shared collaboration of both countries.
Perhaps when we get a shared trans-Tasman currency we could call a dollar/buck a “Crowe”, a tenner a “pav”, and a grand a “pharlap”.
Robert said
Hi B. I think very few Australians actually believe many (any?) of the stereotypes about New Zealanders. A minority of Australians repeat a few stereotypes as a wind-up, few actually believe them.
When I was in New Zealand I encountered a range of accents-some sounded pretty funny but most sounded pretty standard and close to a usual Australian accent. And as you say, no matter how much New Zealanders want it to be true, most Australians don’t have the accent that some New Zealanders stereotype them as having.
If New Zealanders really hear Australians saying “Feesh and Cheeps” then how do New Zealanders say “Cheap”? Answer is that they know Australians don’t say “Feesh and Cheeps” but are trying for a tit for tat retort for “fush en chups”. I think it is a little sad. I heard an NZ girl repeat the “Seedneey Harbour Breedge” stereotype, but if Australians really did say it like that, how would I hear she was using these elongated ‘eeee’ sounds? If Aussie’s spoke like that I wouldn’t be able to hear her joke myself. Also, other nations apart from New Zealand would also think Australians had funny ‘i’ sounds, but they don’t.
Jokes about Aussies being like ‘Kath and Kim’ are laughable because that is a *fictional* comedy: much of the humour comes from the gaudy, outrageous, horrible characters. Those actors have been doing various outrageous characters for decades. (In the 1970s Australian sex-comedy soap opera ‘Number 96′ had a similar malaproping shrieking comedy character, Dorrie, and audiences loved her too.) If normal Australians were actually like that they wouldn’t think the show was an outrageous comedy – which they clearly do, making it one of the highest ratings shows here.
While I am at it a few old comments make jokes about ‘The dingo’s got your baby’ etc. That’s pretty funny since Lindy Chamberlain was born in New Zealand.
Jessica said
I don’t get why everyone is going on about kiwi’s having a inferiority complex when you are been full on offensive? It has nothing to do with feeling inferior, we are proud. What is so funny about that?
Jo said
I once had a Kiwi describe the Kiwi:Aussie relationship to me.
New Zealanders feel that Australia is like America and NZ is like Canada.
Australians take the view that Australia is like America and NZ is like Mexico.
admin said
Jessica,
The only reason any Kiwi-baiting is funny is because of the reaction it gets. That’s it.
Rich said
Netball? I think NZ is the only country in the world that care about netball!
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pingo said
we invented pavlova – its jus so good that everyone want to steal it from us
pingo said
i loved reading this – thanx heaps for the entertainment
fushnchupsblog said
Hi Pingo, pleased you got a laugh, thanks for commenting.
Riki said
As a kiwi myself I think it’s funny as hell all this trans tasman shit slinging. It’s what keeps our countries close. Sure a sheep joke is about as funny as a dose of clap but so what? It’s the intention behind the ribbing that7s funny. Aussies aren’t as ignorant about Kiwiland as they’d like us to believe either….I mean you’ve got to know what you’re lampoonig in order for it to be funny. I’ve heard some great stuff on the radio in Sydney, where Aussie comedians were imitating a NZ traffic report or speaking in their version of a Kiwi accent and it was bloody hilarious……any Kiwi who gets their nose out of joint on account of this kind of piss taking deserves to be pissed ON! It’s funny whether your on the receving end or dishing it out. Learning to take a joke and laugh at yourself is a sign that you’ve matured as a people and culture. Mealy mouthed Kiwis complainging about petty crap IS embarrassing, and should be the target of huge amounts of ridicule. Imean, let’s face it…..there’s a lot about NZ and it’s parochial culture that’s just screaming out to be mocked and as a kiwi myself I have no problem with this….on the contrary, I welcome it. If you haven’t noticed…..Aussies take the piss out of themselves just as much as they take the piss out of everyone else, so all you Kiwis with faces screwed up and flushed like rotten strawberries-DEAL WITH IT!!!
Riki said
BTW- both stereotypes are spot on….if there was no truth to a stereotype there wouldn’t be a fuckin stereotype!! duuhhhhhhh! I’ve spoken to my family back in NZ on the phone ( I live in Japan) and YES, they do have really strong kiwi “eksents” LOL and Aussies DO have this “Seedney” thing going on. Of course you can’t see it yourselves unless you step out of the picture for a while, and of course this doesn’t apply to everyone, but it does blanket enough of us to make a good healthy stereotype. having said that I have yet to fuck a sheep and the next Ocker who go, ” Oh so you’re from Kaywiland aaaaye? Where men are men and sheep are skeered…ahahahahaha!!” gets bottled and stabbed in the face, not for being insulting, but just for being an unoriginal dipshit.
Finally some Aussie jokes: Aussie foreplay: You awake?
What does an Aussie guy say to a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, he’s already told her twice.
What do you call an Aussie in a suit? Defendant!
:)
Troy said
I’m not concerned one way or the other about Russell Crowe, but PLEASE take back Richard Wilkins !
Troy said
Come on the Aussies tomorrow in the First Test at the Basin Reserve.
I am really serious about you guys taking back Richard Wilkins – he has outlived his usefulness (whatever that is) long ago.
Troy said
Ths forum is so quiet. I guess no one uses it anymore. Perhaps it means that all of us on both sides of the ditch have exhausted our supply of insults. Probably not.
fushnchupsblog said
Hey Troy,
Yeah it’s pretty dead these days. Much like the insults too it seems – Kiwis have been pissweak in their sledging of Michael Clarke. I was hoping for more.
Troy said
Yeah, I was also expecting more from the Mitchell Johnson headbutting saga. I’m sure that this would all change if (by a miracle) the Wallabies happened to win back the Bledisloe Cup following, let’s say, a controversial ref’s decision or something similar.
All is going rather well down at the Basin at the moment.
Re ‘Ths forum is so quiet …’ – the missing letter i was not an insult, just bad my bad typing .
Troy said
Jeez, another typing error !
Troy said
Hello, is there anyone there or have the lights actually been turned off over there ?